micro485 wrote:What do comparison of "Win Odds" and "Pot Odds" in Tournament Indicator show you? NOT how to calculate them. I know whether to call or not depends on the people in the pot and your read on them but assume for a minute you opponents are neutral what comparison of "win odds" and "pot odds" will justify or not justify a call.
As you have noted, Pot odds are the math of the pot and if it's worth it to pursue your hand based on statisics as to what you may likely draw. The win odds are not so clear. The other statistics as you pointed out are used to profile and put your opponent on a range. But there are many times you don't have them on a range yet and while the cards may be pretty you are not sure if you want to play them. The pot odds given you are not a no-brainer 5 to 1 so in any given situation it could be you are sitting there neutral in a hand as to what to do.
There are a couple ways Win Odds can be used. First and foremost as already pointed out in the post above, they are not a fixed statistic that if you play the hand you would win that often with it. They are merely INDICATORS of how your hand plays on average. Preflop, if you have good win odds but bad pot odds, you fold. If you have good pot odds and bad win odds, generally you fold, sometimes you make the play anyway but when neutral in other respects AND win odds bad, just fold all the time.
Say I want to make a steal, if my win odds are good I can make the attempt (because pot odds are irrelevent to you to steal or fold other than there is enough for you to want to steal). So if it's folded to you in cutoff through sb and win odds are decent, go ahead for the steal attempt.
Post flop the win odds are much more accurate and a better indicator to stay in the hand. The better the win odds and the better the pot odds then long term if you make that play repeatedly every time you will come out ahead more likely it is you will come out ahead. Also, when a situation is marginal and you are not sure, your read and the math for the pot and making your hand on the draw is all neutral, then look to the win odds and if good, go for it but if not, back off.
They are part of an entire unit and you should learn what all the features do and how they can be used in unison with each other to profile and make reads. Win odds should never be looked at first in a scenario and decide yes or no based on that. They should be looked at as part of the decision while looking at everything else. I hope this answers your question